Joker Director Finally Explains That Last Crucial Scene

  • Published: 09 October 2019
  • Arthur Fleck's biggest joke just might be the one he pulled on you. Joker director Todd Phillips recently made a few very interesting comments to the Los Angeles Times about the final scene of the movie comments that imply a bizarre truth about the story being presented. In case that's not warning enough, be advised that major spoilers for Joker lie ahead.

    Joaquin Phoenix's Arthur is depicted early and often as having a tenuous grip on reality. The film eventually lets on that it's not always clear which events are fantasy and which are reality not to the audience, and presumably not to Arthur.

    At the end, Arthur is seen with his psychiatrist in Arkham State Hospital after he has apparently killed his mother, incited a riot, shot Murray Franklin on live television, and escaped from police custody with the help of his clown-masked followers. As the shrink attempts to question him, Arthur simply laughs, telling her that she wouldn't get the joke. According to Phillips, it's this particular laugh that might hold a clue about the true nature of the story that just unfolded. He explained,

    "That laugh in that scene is really the only time he laughs genuinely. There are different laughs in the movie. There is the laugh from Arthur's affliction and then there is his fake laugh when he's trying to be 'one of the people,' which is my favorite laugh. But at the end, when he's in the room at Arkham State Hospital, that's his only genuine laugh in the movie."

    Why is that, exactly? Well, perhaps because in the end, the joke is on us, the audience. Phillips has said that one of the main influences on his film was The Killing Joke, the acclaimed 1988 graphic novel in which the Joker says that if he must have a past, he, quote, "[prefers] it to be multiple choice." The director made a direct allusion to this dialogue in suggesting that as many fans have speculated Arthur Fleck might not necessarily be who we think he is. Phillips said,

    "There are lots of ways you could look at this movie. You could look at it and go, 'This is just one of his multiple-choice stories. None of it happened.' I don't want to say what it is. But a lot of people I've shown it to have said, 'Oh, I get it he's just made up a story. The whole movie is the joke. It's this thing this guy in Arkham Asylum concocted. He might not even be the Joker.'"

    Phillips went on to state outright that the man who will become Batman's nemesis may simply be in the background somewhere, watching all of these events play out. He said,

    "Maybe Joaquin's character inspired the Joker. You don't really know. His last line in the movie is, 'You wouldn't get it.' There's a lot going on in there that's interesting."

    Phoenix himself also explained that Joker can be seen not so much as a straightforward narrative, but as a series of suggestions. Keep watching the video to see that the Joker director finally explains that last crucial scene!

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Comments • 3 942

  • Looper
    Looper   1 weeks back

    How much of Joker do you think really happened in the movie? Which parts?

    • Sevren Hoover
      Sevren Hoover  3 hours back

      Pogokoala agree 110%

    • Painted Solace
      Painted Solace  20 hours back

      @Ben Owen was that not the same person?

    • Originality Am
      Originality Am  23 hours back

      It's multiple choice .

    • Dean W. Thomas
      Dean W. Thomas  24 hours back

      I don’t believe any of it happened except for the final scene.

    • Kenneth Lam
      Kenneth Lam  1 days back

      @Jeff A. except for this exact movie, because its exactly what the main character would do and has historically done

  • Dakota Stepe
    Dakota Stepe  53 minutes back

    I think the whole clown riot thing was real and the end is after he has been captured by Batman and figured that he Cause Bruce Wayne’s parents to get killed

    • Jeremy Menning
      Jeremy Menning  3 hours back

      Cesar Romero.
      Jack Nicholson.
      Mark Hamill.
      Cameron Monaghan.
      Zack Galifinakis.
      Jared Leto.
      Heath Ledger.
      Joaquin Phoenix.

      They were all The Joker.
      And none of them were The Joker.

      • Thomas DL
        Thomas DL  4 hours back

        I want him to be the joker!

        • giada
          giada  7 hours back

          The director seems to openly approve the theory "The movie was just Arthur's immagination. Arthur is not the real joker". Too easy! This means, to me, that the theory will soon prove to be wrong XD
          I have experience with series's writers who approve fans's theories and then write different stories XD
          I think Todd and Joaquin are really considering a "Joker" sequel, and maybe when/if they'll confirm the sequel they'll tell us the truth abous the last scene.

          • Ileamar Ferrer
            Ileamar Ferrer  7 hours back

            Joaquin Phoenix is the Joker! No one else!

            • Hugo Brömme
              Hugo Brömme  8 hours back

              "Perhaps he told the story to a fellow Arkham State Hospital inmate who then became the real Joker who fights Batman"

              Not only does that sound like stupid overanalyzing bullshit but also unsatisfying as fuck if it's actually true. It would ruin the movie for me completely.

              • DonutWarLord
                DonutWarLord  8 hours back

                All of it happened except the part with his girlfriend.
                The end scene was in the future where he more than likely got locked up and he was thinking of batman.

                • Muath Nasser
                  Muath Nasser  12 hours back

                  He is the Joker's father. (Although I don't like this scenario)
                  In the movie you can notice how he draws a smile in Bruce's face, and how he do the same action many times throughout the movie. Maybe that is what the original Joker meant when he tell the story of his scars "why so serious son"

                  • david ortega
                    david ortega  12 hours back

                    The movie is actually pretty simple. He is the real Joker. It's just that at the very end scene, he's giving another Bull crap story that he made up to yet, another Doctor trying to understand what made the Joker INTO the Joker. Think of it as the abusive father story that he fed to Harley Quinn in Batman: The Animated series. It's all Bull shit.

                    • Sebastian B
                      Sebastian B  13 hours back

                      The one thing that makes me wonder is that Arthur is one generation ahead of Bruce. He would have to be over 60 when meeting Batman.

                      • Ryan King
                        Ryan King  14 hours back

                        So what, he explained it by saying its a mystery?... right...

                        • yee yee
                          yee yee  16 hours back

                          i’m gonna have to watch this movie like 10 times to completely understand what and who arthur fleck truly is. i’ve already seen it twice and after watching this video, it’s making me ponder if arthur is the real joker??? then why the hell would the whole movie be titled joker, or him being brought up and introduced as that. saying he’s “not the real joker” is a lame ass way to describe this cinematic fucking masterpiece.

                          • JiNzX115
                            JiNzX115  17 hours back

                            When asked about the potential of merging two worlds together, Joker and Batman, Todd immediately says NOPE, NEVER. I mean like....Nolan boss has set the bar so high up, Todd clearly doesn't wanna end up like Suicide Squad lmao.....You can see his face, he's scared shitless and runs off.

                            • JiNzX115
                              JiNzX115  17 hours back

                              At the end, he's really laughing at the irony of his whole life being a joke. No origin, no identity, bullied on the street, subway, no relationship, has a laughing condition, tried to work his way up as a comedian only to find himself ridiculed by a person he idolized as a father figure. How can you not see that? It was so obvious.

                              • Jacob Martinez
                                Jacob Martinez  19 hours back

                                Well this was a waste time

                                • Jay Smith
                                  Jay Smith  19 hours back

                                  Nice to see that Looper finally found a movie to make videos about other than Avengers Endgame.

                                  • Dave Deacon
                                    Dave Deacon  21 hours back

                                    I actually just commented to my son that I believe the entire story was in his head. That he may not even be The Joker as even the title is vague "Joker". I think this movie is about mental illness and how we (society) needs to try and make some sense of it where none can be made. We need to put him in some sort of category. Notice how everyone tries to make this movie fit what they want to see and quickly criticize anyone who disagrees. I actually hope the director never explains it as like great art, it is in the eye of the beholder.

                                    • turbo shaft
                                      turbo shaft  22 hours back

                                      We don't actually see the joker get captured after the Murray Franklin show so I can only presume that it's the same after he stands on the car so I believe the whole arthur turns into the joker thing is real and he gets captured shortly after he stands on the car but also you cant compare ledger and Phoenix because ledger plays the enemy of batman and Phoenix takes on a different role

                                      • JRayC2002
                                        JRayC2002  1 days back

                                        Knowing the whole film never happened and that he may not be the real joker ruined the entire film for me, this would of been the best film of the year but the whole dream thing is terrible writing.

                                        • rah
                                          rah  1 days back

                                          Okay so he just randomly makes up how jokers life is, this a joke.

                                          • ja bo
                                            ja bo  1 days back

                                            The Joker isn't a person, it's more of a supernatural/demonic identity as old as Gotham city itself. Whether it's through struggling comedian Arthur Fleck or ruthless gangster Jack Napier, "The Joker" will always be around to terrorize and play tricks on the city. That's my takeaway.

                                            • Stephen Sharma
                                              Stephen Sharma  1 days back

                                              Whose the narrator of this video is she as hot as she sounds?

                                              • Connor McAnerney
                                                Connor McAnerney  1 days back

                                                I read a theory that I personally believe is what the ending means

                                                The final scene in Arkham is set in the future, after Bruce became the Batman and captured Joker, that's why he doesn't have his dyed hair anymore. He was thinking back on the night of the riot when the Waynes were killed and puts two and two together that Bruce became the Batman. Thats why the psychiatrist wouldn't get what he's laughing at. He just got the ultimate punchline: he was the one to create the Batman.

                                                • kristin
                                                  kristin  1 days back

                                                  this isn’t a movie about the comic book characters at all. This is a commentary on our social system and our treatment of mentally ill and low income people. It’s genius to use the joker theme as a format to bring these messages to the forefront to be discussed. That is what we are meant to discuss, not if Batman is coming or if his experiences were real or imagined.

                                                  • Essmat Arafa
                                                    Essmat Arafa  1 days back

                                                    Sure Nolan is better than you !

                                                    • savin padencherry
                                                      savin padencherry  1 days back

                                                      If this isn't the real joker then I'm pretty sure a lot of viewers would as disappointed in the movie as they were impressed by it.. I hope it doesn't turn out that way... Then the movie would turn out to have a lot of plotholes

                                                      • ja bo
                                                        ja bo  15 hours back

                                                        He's "a Joker" just not the one Batman faces in this timeline. Which sorta makes sense because after all Joker is a master schemer and renowned gangster dangerous enough to rival Batman.

                                                    • Mosta Ali
                                                      Mosta Ali  1 days back

                                                      no idea why is it necessary to link to a "Joker character" its all fiction anyway, but I don't like the idea that a story is only imagination in someone head we already know a movie story is mind born why make it double fake

                                                      • Wulfarath
                                                        Wulfarath  1 days back

                                                        I wouldn't take that as a certainty. Directors have always lied about what their next film would hold. So people wouldn't have certain expectations. It may be wishful thinking in the end. But that's the story I'm sticking with.

                                                        • big sarge
                                                          big sarge  1 days back

                                                          So basically this video didn’t explain shit. Thanks

                                                          • gangrail
                                                            gangrail  1 days back

                                                            Him saying no batman might be a mis direction, i would love the next film for batman to face hin and they present the trailer as a joker movie and not show batman in it

                                                            • PMC05
                                                              PMC05  1 days back

                                                              3 words: Bales American Psycho

                                                              • Ge In
                                                                Ge In  1 days back

                                                                Uh, it's fiction. Tommorow he can be written as a turnip who loves hello kitty parades. You're all morons.

                                                                • Elias Ortiz
                                                                  Elias Ortiz  1 days back

                                                                  Nope, made to much money. They made it ambiguous at the end for story telling first off, and safe keeping just in case it made more money than they thought since it's R Rated .so sequel is most likely inevitable. Plus it's a fucking amazing movie I've seen in years no joke. WB can't turn down all this $$ lol they are doubling that budget next movie😂

                                                                  • Elias Ortiz
                                                                    Elias Ortiz  2 days back

                                                                    After he killed murrAy! was a genuine laugh I thought

                                                                    • DH_Artist
                                                                      DH_Artist  2 days back

                                                                      what I found funny, this may be just my sick mind, is that before walking in the hallway, he starts singing some of the lyrics to “That’s Life”, particularly “some people get their kicks, stomping on a dream” and we see his bloody footprints. So clearly he was stomping on her, probably stomping her brains out. Kinda a play on it, but again that’s probably just my twisted mind. I’d just like to think maybe that’s what the joke he was thinking about was. I sure as hell found it funny after watching it the second time 😂

                                                                      • Amazing Facts Kannada
                                                                        Amazing Facts Kannada  2 days back

                                                                        I like phoenix laughing

                                                                        • jonathan lopez
                                                                          jonathan lopez  2 days back

                                                                          Arthur fletcher is joker but not the joker that villan is the one that kills tomas wane and drops in a quimical bath after ala nicolson leto but not ledger.

                                                                          • Public Safety.
                                                                            Public Safety.  2 days back

                                                                            The joker was in handcuffs during the last scene? If it was just all his imagination why was he in cuffs? He have had to have done something bad in order to be cuffed up like that right?

                                                                            • Gaunter O' Dimm
                                                                              Gaunter O' Dimm  2 days back

                                                                              I'm not a big fan of Arthur not being the actual Joker, it kind of takes away from the movie.

                                                                              • Ryan Petersen
                                                                                Ryan Petersen  2 days back

                                                                                Before seeing the movie:
                                                                                "The Joker's not supposed to have a backstory"
                                                                                After seeing the movie:
                                                                                "What the fuck so was that his backstory or not? What a ripoff copout ending!"

                                                                                • Melissa Magan
                                                                                  Melissa Magan  2 days back

                                                                                  But i wanna know NOW LOL

                                                                                  • Dustin Fox
                                                                                    Dustin Fox  2 days back

                                                                                    Pennys Bf created the most iconic villain in comic book history

                                                                                    • Mostafa Abdelmawla
                                                                                      Mostafa Abdelmawla  2 days back

                                                                                      The clocks are always 11:11 everywhere in the movie, except on the show with Murry it's 10:37, I'm not sure what that means!

                                                                                    • aUstin
                                                                                      aUstin  2 days back

                                                                                      He should of said “it’s just a prank bro” at the end of the talk show scene

                                                                                      • L
                                                                                        L  2 days back

                                                                                        I think if this was all imaginary then it would ruin the story because. I loved the movie because you can truly see and understand and feel for Arthur and why he became the Joker. If he Arthur isn't really the joker or this story is fake then the audience has just lost that relatability to the Joker

                                                                                        • Martin Macdonald
                                                                                          Martin Macdonald  2 days back

                                                                                          Joker would have been better if that last scene was cut. The ending should have been Joker dancing on the hood of the police car. That hospital scene detracted from the film.

                                                                                          • Martin Macdonald
                                                                                            Martin Macdonald  2 days back

                                                                                            Whatever. I hope we don't get a slew of 'director's cuts' and 'my interpretation' from various contributors to this masterpiece. Many people create a film. Sometimes many cooks do make a good broth.